she was a powerful person and a strong person but a nice, caring person. there were tears in her eyes. >> reporter: she said that her best role, most important role is mom in chief. that lines up for thursday. >> let me tell you, it's like one, two, three, like in new york we would say, ruth, gehrig, dimaggio. if the next two speeches are as good as i think they'll be, and hers, i didn't have any idea it would be as strong as this, it's going to be a very good convention for us. >> reporter: as they would say in new york, murderous row. >> let's hope so. >> reporter: thanks so much. rachel, back to you. >> andrea, thank you very much. chris matthews is there as well. he's with my friend michael steele. chris? >> we're back. that's all for you, michael. as an outside observer, i want you to rate the three big speeches that i thought were the big speeches, julian castro from the mayor of san antonio and, of course, the first lady. do you want to do an ascending order of how you liked them?